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Monday, September 11, 2006

78. Dr. Matt (Bariloche, Argentina)

As expected, my last post generated a few comments - positive feedback too, great!

Reader's comment:

My friend -
Looks like you're getting angrier by the post with your adopted country. I think things will get better in time though...hopefully before the boiling point is reached.

Hi Adam... it wasn't my intention for my last post to have an angry tone. Sure, I called their comedy series' ridiculous and the behaviour of many guys here tactless, but that was about it, right? When I mentioned that all the girls here looked identical, that was my first impression. But it's not something I am or ever was angry about.

Reader's comment:

Amen! Another quality, insightful post! I am also at a loss at to where all the Argentinian hotties are. Also, what's the deal with the lack of breast-age here in Argentina? Damn, I would maim for a couple of good handfuls...

OK, I didn't want to imply that Argentina was short of hotties. The point I was trying to get across is that they are genetically predisposed to fit the short, thin, dark-haired mould, and if that's not your thing you'll just have to get used to it (as I did). Being genetically smaller they also have smaller breasts on average - but to me they make up for that with their nice round butts. You won't see too many flat-asses on the women here.

Cerro Catedral - 03 - Chairlift
Cerro Catedral a couple of weeks ago, after overnight snow

Reader's comment:
Also, why is it that the gringas won't do some auto criticism? I mean, c'mon women, any man would rather have sex with a Latin woman. And they also know how to run a house and bring up a family. Anyway...

Matty, I've got a question for you: If you had seen the opportunity to open the exact same business in your country, would you have gone about it exactly the same way you did in Argentina? You know, buy first the van, then get the permits, then get the professional license, then find out the permit isn't good for what you wanted to do, etc.?


Hi BFN. Why would any man rather have sex with a Latin woman? As anonymous above points out, a breast-man, or for that matter, one into natural blondes, will probably prefer the girls back in his own country.

Good question regarding my business. The order I did things in here was an unplanned progression - originally I wasn't going to drive the van myself but be organising trips, keeping the van maintained, selling tickets etc. The way things have turned out now is that the six months I spent doing the paperwork in BA were pretty much for nothing, since I have to get it re-certified here - which will take another month. But I can't be upset about that because my original plan wasn't to work in Bariloche. I can work here with my current certification, but the catch is I have to exit (and re-enter) the province on any excursion I make, since my certification is inter-provincial. In order to work exclusively within the province, I need to get the provincial certification.
I probably would have done things in the same order in NZ too. I expect certifying the van wouldn't have taken so long (or need to be redone here), but I'm sure getting my professional driver's license would be a more drawn out process, probably involving expensive training courses.

Reader's comment:

Hi Matt!
Another nice article on your weblog! Thanks for your entertaining thoughts, although in this case they were not very helpful for me. Just for completeness I will include a more complete version of the story of my breakup. I am also very curious what your girlfriend has to say about it:

My Argentinean girlfriend of 4,5 months broke up with me just 3 weeks ago. When I met her we were amazingly in love and she send my text messages with many "Te Amo"s and claiming I was the love of her life, this all until about 5 weeks ago. When we had 4 months she wrote me a small note saying I changed her life and if I would please stay with her forever and we were talking a lot about living together. I was working on this by trying to find an acceptable apartment at an acceptable price (mission impossible, I need not explain) and starting my own English school, which is running quite well after just 2 months. Also I was learning Spanish and I tried to be with her as much as I (and she) could. Then 4 weeks ago she didn't want to meet me after her work one night (like we had done since she started that job 2 weeks before, as her work is near my hostel and she prefers sleeping with me instead of taking a 1 hour busride back to her house in the middle of the night), claiming she was tired and busy. Then next night the same, but with the added message she was "thinking" about our relation. After a week waiting she wanted to talk to me, but she wanted to meet in a bar and broke up immediately. I talked her around and after 3 hours of more talking we were together again and stayed the night together, but the next day she send my a TXT message that she really wanted to end and she never came back on this decision. She claimes she needs time alone, wants to have more experience before having a serious relation and that she just doesn't like me anymore. Fair enough, but knowing how desperately she always wanted to be with me, be serious about us and how she showed she really loved me, the whole first 4 months we were being together, I find all this very hard to believe. I cannot believe someone can have her emotions changed so drastically in just 2 weeks time... I think she might just be very afraid that I am going to leave her one day.
Well, I have heard that Argentinean women are passionate (definitely true with love!), also in decisionmaking. Furthermore they can be hysteric and maybe a bit unreliable. So, this is my experience so far with Argentinean women, very sweet (because I had the best love ever with her), but with a unexpected, bitter ending. After she broke up with me, I realised that I love her a lot more than I thought, that I also have made some mistakes (like not showing her enough how much I loved her and complaining about my life in Argentina and having backup plans in the back of my mind) and that I want her back. I am just not sure if and how I can get her back (having no other experience with (Argentinean) women on this subject, until now I broke up), so any tips on this are very, very welcome! My tactic until now is just to wait a few weeks (4-6-8?) and in the meantime get more serious about my life here, so that she can see I am serious about staying in Argentina for her.

Matt wrote me: "If you can combine the 2 Cs of caballero and cojedor you won't have any trouble with the girls." I don´t think I will have a lot of trouble finding someone else, I have already had a thing with a Chilean girl for a week, but it is just not the same as with the Argentinean one, I seem to only want her.

Ok, any comment welcome! Gracias! Chau!

Hi Dave. I've translated your message to my girlfriend. Here's what she had to say:

Hi Dave. If I was you I would put a rope around my neck and hang myself for being abandoned that way! No, just kidding...

It could be 3 things:
Firstly, she had a teenager's attitude to tell you that she loved you and that you were the love of her life in such a short time, teenagers have this attitude because they are inexperienced and are emotionally unstable. Today they want one thing and tomorrow something else. If she actually is a teenager (or an emotionally immature 20 something) you should think about her carefully because she's going to be changing her mind all the time, so it depends on you whether you're willing to accept that or not. My advice would be to forget about her.

Secondly, she may have thought seriously of having a future with you. But if you didn't show her enough interest that could have caused her to make the decision she made. She wouldn't have deluded herself into something if she thought you weren't sure of your future in Argentina, and that you would one day leave Argentina and leave her heartbroken. If this is the case, you have to call her and show her that you really are in love with her and that you want to have a life with her, whether it's in Argentina or somewhere else. Women like it when guys insist.

Or, maybe she has an ex-boyfriend and for whatever reason (maybe because you didn't show her enough interest) she got back with him. Try to get her to tell you her real motive for dumping you, and let her know that you can change.

Suerte. If that doesn't work, there's lots of interesting women here, just find one that's not immature. According to the guys here Argentine women are ideal between 27 and 35 years old because by then they are more mature and they know what they want.

Cerro Catedral - 10 - View from the top pano
5-shot pano from "Piedra del Condor" on Catedral

Reader's comment:
I'm a big fan of your posts, and I think this is another great piece of info about Argentine women.

I'm glad you posted about the topic, because like a lot of single men, I had the exact same questions regarding Argentine women. I have to admit, though, that I am a little disappointed. I have traveled to Mexico, and the latinas have always been very receptive to foreigners. Perhaps, the Argentine women should give some of the men a break. They may find someone great.

It's not that Argentine women are harsh on foreign men in particular - they're simply haven't got "gringo fever". The upshot is that foreigners have to work just as hard as a local guy to pick up a girl here. In Chile, Bolivia, and Peru the women are more interested in foreigners.

Cerro Catedral - 01 - Pistas
A map of the runs on the skifield. It's pretty big

Reader's comment:
tell us about the skiing - how are the slopes - what's the snow like during the season - is steep & deep possible in the cold times? how much does it cost - what are the good skiers like? ie good, medium, mediocre?

Hi Bruce. We're now into the low tourist season, which means lower priced ski lift passes. So my girlfriend and I finally headed up for our first day's skiing. Skiing is a rich man's sport in any country, and Argentina's no exception. Ski hire: $40 pesos per day. Lift passes: $115 pesos in the high season, $65 pesos low season. Clothes hire, around $40 pesos. That's about $200 pesos (US$66) per day in the high season and around $150 pesos (US$50) in the low season, not counting transportation to the mountain (from US$1 on public bus) and food.
I'm not really an expert skier so can't really comment on the quality of the skiers here (or on steep & deep, sounds p0rn0 to me), but my friend Paul who lives here and goes up just about every day says the locals are pretty good.

I've skied a bit over the years but she'd never done it, and she wasn't all that keen to try. But skiing by yourself I find boring as hell, so I was pushing her to give it a go so that we'd have a mutual hobby. Unfortunately, the day ended in tears as she badly twisted her knee and had to be stretchered off the beginner's slope. Since she doesn't have health insurance we had to fork out for her treatment on the mountain. And then when we got home I'd somehow lost our apartment key so we had to get a locksmith in to replace the lock at our expense. I was on nurse duty the next couple of days as she was unable to walk and bedridden. Fortunately she's now out of bed and limping around, and it seems like she hadn't torn any ligaments so she'll be OK. I still feel guilty.

Cerro Catedral - 08 - Ruth skiing
Ruth skiing, before it ended in tears

I finally sat the test for my national professional driver's license - I had to wait 30 days for my turn. The test consisted of 5 hours of medical tests - blood, ears, eyes, eyeball pressure, chest xray, a physical, plotting my heartbeat, and the highlight, an EEG, where they placed a bunch of electrodes on my head, got me to hyperventilate, and plotted the results. Finally we had a bunch of psychological tests including an IQ test and an interview with a psychologist. I totally bombed the IQ test as a lot of the multiple choice options were out of my vocabulary - it was like:
"Which item doesn't belong in the group":
a. apple b. banana c. ball d. shnork e. fnerp

Anyway, the psychologist said the IQ test wasn't too important. Now I've just got to wait a month for the paperwork to get sent off to Buenos Aires and come back again.


  • Hi Matt & Ruth!
    Thanks for asking your girlfriend and getting a reply! She might be right about the first 2 things. My ex-girl is 22 years (I am 30...) and therefor she may change her feelings fast. She never was a great example of emotional stability either. But she seems to be a lot more mature than other girls of her age though. Also maybe I was "complaining" too much about Argentina (Matt-style, so not actually very serious, just the normal irritation that sometimes boiles up on a prolonged stay in this country...) and not letting her know enough I was serious. Or I was too serious about it and I scared her with that (combined with point no. 1). I don´t think it would be number 3, because a friend of her told me she has been just as heartbroken as I have been the last 3 weeks. She hardly leaves the house, is cryin all the time and has a bad temper, even with her friends. But the friend also told me that my ex-girl was being "choked" by the intensity of our relation and that she therefor had the feeling she had to stop.
    Which leads me to think I might have been a bit too dependent on her (because of the situation, which is different than Matt´s because he already was going to be in Argentina for a somewhat longer time, while I just stuck around for her) and maybe a bit too much of a Nice Guy (
    Anyway, I will leave her alone for a while and in a few weeks/months I can always give her a call to see what she thinks (if I want her back, because of her emotional instability...) and until then I will just try to have fun...
    Guys, thank you very much for your contribution in the healing of my broken heart (and this entertaining blog)! I won´t bother you guys agian with this story... And maybe I will see you around one day, who knows! I will surely follow your blog. Suerte con el negocio, flaco!!!

    By Anonymous Dave, at 7:44 AM  

  • Che Dave,

    First off - hysterical link. This is perhaps the best 10 minutes I've wasted at work (today!). Also, I'm certainly no veteran in the game of love, and even less so when it comes to Argentine women, but if I may, I'd like to applaud your decision to move on and get on with your life. Really, forget about her...being independent and not needy will either 1) equip you for meeting someone else who respects you, or 2) have her realise how you don't need her to function, having the effect of her feeling like she wants you back. Either way, you win.

    So, grab a few liters of Quilmes, perhap even a shot or two of Fernet (Branca, obviously), turn up the latest Babasonicos album, and go enjoy all that this fine land has to offer.


    By Anonymous Adam, at 2:30 AM  

  • I hope it's not too late to get a reply to this.

    Hey! I'm an American student who's going to Argentina in four months.

    I have to admit I've had somewhat unreasonable expectations of the place since an Argentine (female) acquantince of mine told me that my blond hair, blue eyes, fair supply of American money, and decent Spanish skills would guarantee me 'tons of play' in Buenos Aires.

    Clearly, life is not that simple. Ah, but we can dream...

    By Blogger Loyal Achates, at 11:54 AM  

  • She's correct, as in tons of "playing" with yourself.

    I think BA is so saturated with foreigners these days the jig is up...what was perhaps an intriguing novelty in 2002, after a bunch of intrepid foreigners made the long journey down to a formerly "unknown" country suffering from devastating economic/social collapse, no long carries much weight.

    I too entertained visions of grandeur before I left for a year in BA. The VIP section of Opera Bay, with two Alyssa Milano lookalikes draped on each arm as I threw pesos around like monopoly money was were you could find me. I was somewhat attractive, reasonably intelligent (so my mother told me), and possessed one of the world's most highly coveted passports.


    And then I woke up. As an English teacher.

    By Anonymous Adam, at 3:42 AM  

  • So I'm leaving tomorrow for BA. Was supposed to go with my girlfriend, but we broke up yesterday. Commitmentphobe of all things. Will only be there two weeks. Where DOES a guy go in BA, alone, to meet women...say, who want to practice English...and the like?

    Like these other guys, I'm a decent looking 37 y.o. 'Merican bloke...with job and all that.

    Curiously On the Prowl,


    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:00 PM  

  • possessed one of the world's most highly coveted passports.



    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:24 AM  

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